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Huge tech campus plan at former Fry's headquarters moves ahead in San Jose
The death of a major brick-and-mortar electronics retailer might lead to the birth of a new, nearly two-million-square-foot office complex in San Jose. Plans were revealed last April to demolish the giant, temple-shaped Fry's superstore — which at the time was not yet closed and which served as the now-defunct San Jose-based company's headquarters — and replace it with a campus of seven 135-foot tall office buildings. According to the Mercury News, the project now faces a major step in the city review process, which includes the preparation of an environmental-impact report.
"The project proposes to demolish the existing Fry’s Electronics building and surface parking lot [at 550 E. Brokaw Road, near downtown San Jose] and construct seven eight-story office towers in an office campus design,” San Jose planning files said. Construction is slated to begin in October 2023, and could take until 2031 to complete, the Mercury News reported. Planning documents show that the office buildings will contain an array of "gathering areas" for employees working on the campus, including outdoor terraces on the seventh floor of each tower. Also, the buildings will be configured around pedestrian streets, and will ultimately total 1.92 million square feet of office space.
An artist rendering of the proposed 1.92 million square foot campus of office buildings set to be built near the site of the former headquarters of the now-out-of-business Fry's electronics san jose mercury news frys. Source:Gensler
Phase 1 of the project, which could begin in two years, would include the Fry's demolition and the construction of two of the seven towers.
Many Bay Area tech nerds and gamers were devastated by the loss of Fry's, which happened slowly and then all at once in the last few years.
With the pandemic decimating in-person businesses and creating yet another hurdle for already-struggling retailers — and all the while creating a greater market foothold for online vendors — Fry's announced in February that it was fully shutting down operations, as the New York Times reported. "The retailer, which built a cult following on the West Coast but was unable to compete with the rise of Amazon, blamed the shutdown on 'changes in the retail industry and the challenges posed by the COVID-19 pandemic,'" the Times said.
That announcement came after a year in which multiple Fry's locations had already gone dark, including the Campbell store that shut down in November.
The Mayan-temple-themed Fry's superstore in San Jose is now a monument to obsolescence. Source: Yelp
Founded in 1985 by the three Fry brothers, the namesake chain once had 31 stores in nine states, and was created to “provide a one-stop-shopping environment for the high-tech professional,” the Times quoted Fry's LinkedIn profile as saying. Fry's was also famous for its elaborate store themes, and as the Times wrote, "The stores ranged in size from 50,000 square feet to more than 180,000 square feet, each stocked with an eclectic assortment of gadgets and parts. Its location in Phoenix had an Aztec temple, for instance; its store in Burbank, was inspired by 1950s science fiction movies; and the Fry’s in Woodland Hills, California, was a page out of Alice in Wonderland, decorated with figurines as tall as 15 feet of the story’s characters."
Another decorative Fry's store in the City of Industry, near the San Gabriel Valley, in Los Angeles. Source: Wikipedia
The San Jose headquarters "[paid] tribute to the first astronomers, the Mayans, with settings from Chichen Itza, complete with a massive temple at the entrance, palm trees between shelves and hidden speakers that play the sounds of birds chirping through the parking lot," as SFGate wrote. Meanwhile the Fremont store mimicked the 1893 World's Fair, where a Tesla coil at the center of the store fired off every hour; the Sunnyvale store featured the history of Silicon Valley; and the Palo Alto store was themed on the Wild West.
Experiences at Fry's Electronics, Page Eleven
April 26, 1997
I suppose I am one of those people that agrees with everything everyone has said here, yet keeps going back because of the good selection and reasonable prices. Of course, I do that not san jose mercury news frys any service whatsoever, and I don't consider 15 minutes that bad of a drive, even to go to where "Your Worst Computer Buys Are ALWAYS. at Fry's!"
Some of my experiences:
Sunnyvale: While shopping for various computer knicknacks (Zip Drives and disks among them - word to the wise, to the best of my knowledge, a zip disk is a bank of eastman magnolia state bank disk, and and a jaz cart is a jaz cart; if you have a PC and see only Mac disks, just format them and vice versa - get the cheapest ones) my roommate and I spy one of those "VR" headset things among the joysticks, and though pricey, decide to split it and try it out. Of course, it kinda sucked (a cute toy, promising technology, but the res just isn't there yet) so as expected I packed it up and took it back the next day. I guess this is one of those "go early" stories, because I service credit union branches near me, and the return people were in a pretty easy going mood. I explained that the resolution wasn't as good as I was expecting, and I'd like credit towards another purchase. (I intended to take the plunge and get a new TV, silly as that might be to do at Fry's.) They insisted on opening it up and hooking it up right there to their terminals so they could see what I was talking about, not so much because they didn't trust me, but because things were fairly slow and they wanted to play. Cool, we hook it up, and compare it to another one from the shelf, and sure enough, you can't even read standard text with them. So, a return without hassle.
Armed with my credit slip, I wander back to the nether regions of TV land at Fry's. Foolishly, I thought I might benefit from a little help from a commission hound. After picking out a few likely models, I wandered around in TV Land for about 45 minutes with a glazed over look, just to see if someone might notice me - I had plenty of time and patience that day. Of course, nobody did, but since for big stuff like this you've GOT to get somebody's attention to get the printout, I asserted myself and sought assitance. The guy at the podium had been on the phone the whole time, so forget him. There was a guy fooling around with a pile of what looked like broken remotes and other crap on the floor, so he was having too much fun to help me. I finally flagged down a guy at a terminal among the camcorders. First choice - out of stock, naturally. Second choice, we have one, but it's an open box, so I'll give you the extended warranty thing for free. He says let me go in back and check it out. Um, okay. I haven't signed anything, so what's the worst that could happen. He comes back, says there's a problem with it, and shows me - the casing of the TV has a big nasty crack in it. Dammit, what am I doing in Fry's buying AV stuff anyway, I think, ready to leave, but apparently he thinks he is selling cars, and offers me a discount on a slightly better model. Amazingly, unlike most of the "bait and switch" stories above, his knocking $100 off the price actually brings it down to the level of the other models I was considering, yet it's a Sony with more features and unquestionably a better TV. Strange things can happen at Fry's; maybe it was some odd alignment of planets that made it a good day to go to Fry's. I've had the TV for 4 months and no problems.
Of course, never buy RAM or CPUs there, or basically anything not in a box on a shelf that you might reasonably be able to tell right there if it's been returned. My roommate bought a pair of 16 meg simms there. Brought them home, they were usps office open today. Took them back, give them to the return people, take the slip to the cashier, blah blah blah, they give him THE SAME SIMMS. He says, dammit these are the same ones, oops they get some others, and they are still different, but obviously still 8's. They must have had a big bin of simms marked "16 meg," and of course nobody working there knows the difference. My roommate took his money instead and ran.
Actual POSITIVE experiece at San Jose: My father was looking to get a printer for use with both his PC and his SO's Mac. And lo and behold, there was a printer guy to help him out, and he WAS helpful. We had already singled out HP as the brand to get, so it was a matter san jose mercury news frys which model, and the guy was very knowledgable about them. Of course, the catch here is that I don't think he was really a Fry's employee, but an HP rep, he had a badge that said HP on it, and his card said as much. This is a good turn for Fry's also, though, because it shows they might have sense to recognize that since their customer service is lousy, they should allow brand reps to send in troops to help the consumers. As it happens, (invariably) they were out of stock, so we picked it up from an Office Depot at the same price later that afternoon.
Interestingly, I've never experienced the check nightmares related above. One day I found myself with over $200 of stuff to buy and all I had was my checkbook. I had read this page before, and expected the absolute worst, as I had an OLD address printed on my checks, and worse, an OLD address that was DIFFERENT on my DL. But get this: there was no problem! Just wrote the current info on my check, and of course the standard DL# and exp., and away I went, without even a 20 minute wait. Maybe I'm just lucky with Fry's or something, but I know all that other crap happens - it just seems to happen to my friends. Still, for physical non-silicon stuff, there are few convenient alternatives to Fry's. Just don't buy RAM or CPUs, and if getting a hard drive or other computer component, the sales people don't know what they're talking about. Shopping at Fry's is not for novices!
( Donn S. Thomson )
P.S. The Final Indignity certainly bites - I walk by whenever I can. Even when I feel like ALLOWING them to look at my purchases, often they merely glance in and check off the receipt. As if they're really going to stop any theft that way!
April 27, 1997
Subject: What about the other side?
I had a lot of fun reading your the experiences you have collected and found many of them quite humorous (because they didn't happen to me!). However, I also thought many of the comments were disturbing. For instance the person who spoke of "renting" things by returning them on the last day he was able and purchasing new equipment. It is people like this that make it so difficult for honest people to make an honest return. I think you have forget about the "other side", the employees.
My husband is a department manager for Fry's and I hear the "other side". Customers coming up yelling from the beginning (like that is going to make someone want to help them?!), customers getting irate when they cannot return something that is outside of return policy (Open software for instance. How would they be able to tell if it was used or not other than it was open? They can't return that and get credit and you all complain when you purchase something that was previously opened!) What about the customers who just flat out lie? Unfortunately this happens so often it is easier to believe someone is lying than telling the truth. And those managers who have been doing this for any length of time can usually tell who is lying and who is not. Another disturbing occurance from one of your letters was the person who started opening software to get attention of a sales person. He should have been forced to buy all the merchandise or san jose mercury news frys arrested! That is the type of thing that drives prices up for everybody! With regard to not getting any help there, I do agree. It is a problem. I would, however, rather be completely ignored like everyone else than be ignored only because I am a female like happens in other electronic stores (no, we don't purchase EVERYTHING at Fry's!).
I am not saying that Fry's is perfect. My parents about had a heart attack when I started dating a Fry's employee because of all their miserable experiences there. Fry's hires people. People aren't perfect. Rather than just complain about how miserable your experience was, think about how miserable the experience was for the person you were yelling at! It is usually not their fault (although Fry's does have a number of people with apparent below average IQ's working there!). There are plenty of honest, hard working, caring, intelligent people who work there. There are plenty of lazy, uncaring, idiots who work there. Don't treat them all bad because some of them are. Fry's does try and hire intelligent people with a knowledge of the product, but there aren't many who know alot about the product who are willing to work (and get yelled at by customers) for the little amount the sales people get paid. If shopping at Fry's is that miserable of an experience for you, don't go there! Rather than live with all the anger and rage of something that happened in a instant for a long time, let it go. Get on with your life. Complain to the store. Write Randy Fry if you wish (he really is a great guy that does genuinely care about what customers think!). THEN LET IT GO! Life happens. Deal with it and move on. If Fry's were that bad, people would quit shopping there and they would go out of business.
Well, this forum is for letting out pent up anger about Fry's. In a way I guess I have also, just in a different sort of way than most. I am angry that I have to worry about my husband's safety when he goes to work because so many people get so upset with the message that they are ready to take it out on the messenger.
( the wife of a Fry's employee )
April 29, 1997
Most of what is on your web page jibes with my experience at Frys. However, I still do shop there since they good selection and often have great prices. However, I have developed several rules for Frys shopping:
1. Never ask for help. The sales associates do not know what they are doing, where they are, or anything about the merchandise. Unfortunately, they are also not smart enough to admit it when they don't know the answer so they just make something up.
2. Know what you are doing, you won't get any help from the sales people (see above).
3. Know your prices. Frys can be a good deal sometimes, but can be outrageously expensive too. Don't assume something is a reasonable price.
4. When the sales person suggests a more expensive item, buy the cheaper one.
5. If something doesn't work, return it. Don't try bremen high school football fix it or talk to the manufacturer, just try another one.
6. Always return an item for cash and buy a new one. Exchanging just shortens your 15/30 day return window.
7. If a salesperson won't take a return, come back later or go to another store.
8. Once again NEVER NEVER NEVER ask a salesperson a question you don't know the answer to!!!!!
If you stick to these rules, Frys is a pretty good place. I just wish the lines at the return desk were shorter :-)
( Sam )
May 2, 1997
This sounds like www mysynchrony com home locations store we have here in Columbus except that they don't carry alot of computer stuff. Recently though the store has been going through a lot of changes, many for the better. The store I am talking about is Meijer. They are a mega-store type deal. The carry almost everything under the Sun (except computers, but they may not be far away.). The have the best prices in groceries and decent prices on everything else and they are open 24 hours a day (great for me because I am at work as I am typing this! :) ) One the down side, most of their stores have between 30 and 36 registers not counting ones in the cafe, garden center, sporting goods and pharmacy, but rarely is there ever more then say 5-10 of these open and when I go in they almost always only have one open. Since I shop late night there, they are also in the restock phase. This is also the time they clean and wax floors. The associates rope off the areas they are waxing and 5 x out of 10 it's the area you want to go. Most of the time, the associate will allow you in the waxing area, but more than 2 x when I was going in there anyway, the associate yelled at me to get off of the floor! (I sympathize, because waxing floors is hard work! and being open 24 hours leaves thm no real down time) Now, the store I always go to (Brice Rd in Columbus, OH) is getting a remodel! It's going to look like their newer stores. Thank God, cuz Brice was getting awfully dingy! :) I guess the only real bad thing about Meijer was working for them. If you wanted to work there you always had to work weekends (yech). Also, they are only closed one day a year (Christmas). That means I almost always had to work on Thanksgiving. Thank God for my new job.
What does this have to do with Fry's? Maybe that it has more to do with upper echelon management (I ain't talking about Store Managers, but the district managers) than anything else. Nine times out of ten the store manager had a DM breathing fire down his neck about reducing labor and and and. Not to mention Meijer has silly policies as well too. (hasn't anyone there ever heard of no wax floors? :)) and just cuz you can't work weekends doesn't mean you can't work for them! (God knows they need help during the week too!) Most of the associates at Meijer are overworked (including management). Looks like it's the same with Fry's too. I am glad Sun TV is taking over our IU we had!
( Joel )
May 2, 1997
I have experienced the same as the others both good and bad, but the bottom line is "BUYER BEWARE." You can go other places and pay more to have someone be nice to you. Or you can go to Fry's with the attitude of "I'm going to get what I want and I'm not leaving without it."
Knowing which store personnel are agreeable can help, only talk to the people who usually say "yes" to your requests.
On mother board combos, they don't switch components anymore on the combos so the customer has to buy the board and chip possibly twice to get the highest MHZ chip with the best deal on the motherboard and return the components he doesn't want.
I was told by Myron Wilson at the Fountain Valley store that the only way to get a great deal is to play the aforementioned game (buy and return).
Never write checks to Fry's (they treat everyone like criminals, making you wait fifteen (15) business days for a check to be issued back to you). I had less than a $200.00 check take over a month to be refunded. This was rectified after repeated calls demanding my money, at the store level.
The more you complain to Corporate in San Jose, the more likely you'll receive a $25 gift certificate from "RANDY FRY" appologizing for your inconvenience.
So, go get brown-nosed at another retailer or learn something before going into Fry's and come out the winner.
Please post this, it might help others understand how to come out ahead at FRY"S!
( another customer )
May 2, 1997
I was disappointed to find that the Fry's Web Page does not contain information concerning their week by week sales specials. I was hoping to find price/availability information.
This gives your page author the opportunity to repeat: I do not work for Fry's Electronics. I do not represent Fry's Electronics. I have nothing to do with Fry's Electronics. It does not appear that Fry's has a web site.
May 3, 1997
Is this the right spot to bitch?
I've had many bad experiences (and for some reason, continue to shop there!!).
I work for a security company and we do work on computers that operate our security software. Well, one day the Western Digital HDD in one of our computers crashed, BIG TIME. So I went to Fry's to get a replacement. It was a 1.2 Gig and I thought Fry's would at least sell one.
I knew exactly what I wanted and went to the Hard Drive section. I looked around for about 15 minutes for a 1.2 Gig WD hard drive. I couldn't find one. So I hunted down a Fry's employee (because you can't find one) and asked if he had any 1.2 Gigs in stock. He said "no," and walked away.
So looked at the next biggest WD. It was a 1.6 Gig. I hunted down another Fry's employee to make that purchase. He said "ok," and wrote up my order. After about 15 minutes he said he didn't have any in stock! But conveniently said he had plenty of 2.1 Gigs.
Getting tired of waiting to buy a hard drive (and knowing I'll get reimbursed for it), I grudgingly bought a 2.1 WD.
I then went to that long line to actually pay for it. I waited 30 min. to reach a cashier, and apply for capital one personal loan online once I was there, it took them another 20 min. to actually get my hard drive!
What a crock of sh*t.
I some times wish they didn't have such good prices so I wouldn't get tempted.
Anyways, thanks for letting me vent.
( Jim )
May 4, 1997
Can you tell me where is fry electronics located at?? I see that the prices are pretty cheap.
( another computer user )
Page author's note: That's not what this page is about. I do not work for Fry's Electronics. I do not represent Fry's Electronics. I have nothing to do with Fry's Electronics. It does not appear that Fry's has a web site. The cities in which Fry's stores are located are shown on Page One.
May 5, 1997
Here's one for ya.
My hard-Drive crashed and I needed a new drive very badly. I (reluctantly) went to Fry's to purchase a new one. After finding the display (which was in dis-repair) I located my choice of HD to purchase. After that, things went fine.
After getting my HD back home, I went through the usual process of installing it (10-15 min max). Well. The computer told me that the HD I got was not the one on installed ( after turning it on). And also, said that it was not able to access it! I played with it for an hour. Nothing. The next day I called the manufacturer of this HD, I gave them the serial # and I was told this was a refurbished item. Aha! That's it! But there's more.
I took the HD BACK to Fry's and after having to fill my own return-item paperwork, I did so. Then after 10 minutes, I just grabbed someone to help me (he looked frazzled). I explained that the HD I purchased did not work. He replied "Do you know what you're doing?" He said this word for word. I said "Yes," somewhat sarcastically. He next asked, "Maybe you need a controller board". boil boil. I said, "Look. I called the manufacturer and I was told this is a refurbished hard-drive. The instructions it came with aren't even showing the same HD". He didn't even bat an eye. He took my HD and within 1 minute handed me a new HD (in original bubble-wrap). THIS HD looked like the one shown in the instructions.
( Scott )
May 5, 1997
After dealing with Fry's Electronics for a number of years, I thought that I knew how they supported their customers. After moving from the Bay Area, I had the opportunity to buy a computer system at the Sacramento store (Incredible Universe)--cpu without the monitor. It took me three weeks to get a monitor. Eventually bought it at the Sunnyvale store. When the system was ready to run, it didn't.
Talked with HP Tech Support and they were of great help. Finally after two more weeks of hassle, the system was determined to have a "system board" problem. When I notified the Sac. store, I got the run-around by saying that the system was five (5) days out of warranty. I did not buy an extended warranty. Is this service?
After blowing my stack, it remains a poor policy of Fry's not to support the products that they sell. Thank goodness for the manufacturer support. There is no way that Fry's will ever see my face again. So customers beware!!
( Richard )
May 7, 1997
Some time ago (when people used 5.25 drives)
I overheard a customer, who was carrying a small notepad and hurriedly writing-down notes, ask a Fry's employee: "Which drive should I get, 3.5 or 5.25?"
The employee responded: "You need to get the 5.25 drive, they hold more."
( another customer )
May 8, 1997
My only other option to Fry's is CompUSA. CompUSA recently changed their return policy from 30 days to 10 days. Upon learning this, I refused to purchase anything at CompUSA since it was unlikely that I could try and return a product within 10 days.
Fry's has numerous problems and terrible customer service. On the other hand, they have decent prices and a 30 day return policy. Recently I've seen prepaid postage comment forms at the checkout lanes.
Thank you for maintaining such an informative page.
( Mike )
May 9, 1997
The other day, I was reading the San Diego Union-Tribune when I saw a full-page ad on the back of the front section of the paper. The ad contained those boxes with item descriptions on the left and the price in big numbers in the bottom right corner. As a former resident of Fremont, CA, I immediately recognized the ad as identical to the Fry's ads in the San Jose Mercury News, but it was for Incredible Universe. The only difference was the Incredible Universe logo replacing the Fry's logo and the "chip guy." Fry's Electronics bought several Incredible Universe stores from Tandy (i.e. Radio Shack) several months ago and the change is starting to happen. The store is located near the I-15/I-8 intersection in San Diego near Qualcomm Stadium. I'll give them a year for the customer service that Fry's is famous for san jose mercury news frys work its way into the San Diego store.
( Jeff C., Oceanside )
May 15, 1997
To Whom it May Concern:
Your comments about Fry's Electronics should all be ripped up. Have you san jose mercury news frys gone into a store and not had a bad experience? Why must customers always take it out on the people who are employed by Fry's. I am one of them and when a customer comes up to my register I will explain to him the procedures on which I was taught to do but it still doesn't click into our customer's head! I always ask the customer if its the 1st time in writing a check, granted Fry's has a tough check policy but think about it people, if someone is writing you check for $5,000 and over, wouldn't you want to be guaranteed that the money is in their account! Or would you rather them say ok take that new computer system away and we won't check on your account to see if your check is good. There are some bad people who san jose mercury news frys on still writing bad checks (even though they know they're bad). I believe that maybe half of the problem could be solved when the salesmen on the floor tell the people about our payment policies before they reach the checkouts. Look, people, we're only human and these policies are put there for a reason. As a Fry's associate, I deeply apologize for all the bad times at Fry' s that you have experienced but remember WE'RE ONLY DOING OUR JOB!
( a Fry's employee )
May 17, 1997
Thanks for creating this venting area for all the frustrating Fry's customers. I have one thing to say, I hope Fry's goes out of business. All the stories I heard sounded so familiar to me. Here is another stupid one. I live in Stockton, and I called the Fremont store to find out the store hours, some idiot told me they closed at 10pm. Everyone in my office heard it, since I was on the speakerphone. I drove 1 hr and 15 mins in summer highway heat to get to the damn store at about 9:10, only to find out the store closes at 9:00. I explained the situation to the door guy, and told him I know what I need, it would only take me 2 mins to get it. Still, he wouldn't let me in. I don't understand, does the people work in the story actual work in the story? How can they not even know their own store hours??????????????? I suggest all the customers who are reading this, not to shop at Fry's anymore, but if they have to, don't even treat the employees there like humans. Fry's is the only store in the world take about 20-30 min to wait in line, and another 15 to pay at the register, after you are being lied to and screwed at. FRY'S: you guys sell computers, but don't you try to upgrade your own systems to something faster than a 386 server that services the entire store, maybe we dont have to wait as long.
( another former customer )
PS: Try to shop there at Christmas, or better yet, return something a few days after Christmas. Hmmm, bring your lunch, snacks, and maybe dinner, and oh, don't forget, maybe a foldaway chair!
May 18, 1997
Way to go Dave. I have made the mistake of shopping at Fry's and I refuse to give them one more cent! I refuse to be treated like a criminal by an institution I am handing hundreds of dollars to. After making my second purchase from them (yes, I was stupid enough to go back), I thought that buying something from them was a ridiculous and humiliating experience. returning an item is a nightmare. I tell everyone I know "DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM FRY'S" and will continue to as long as they are in business or until they start respecting people.
( Tom )
May 18, 1997
I recently went in for 64MB EDO RAM. The guy really wanted to sell me the premium variety (which had a longer warranty and cost about 50% more).
Anyway, I paid about $180 for each "mixed" piece--total $360. 17 days later the $180 product is advertised at $129. I do the usual return thing--one thing that works for me here is to do returns between 8 - 9 am on a weekday. The manager came over and looked at the return and said, "only 15 days on memory." But he went ahead and signed off on it and gave me the break.
As others have said, keep calm and you will prevail with Frys.
( another customer )
I am no longer actively soliciting comments to be posted on this page.
The experiences posted here are those of the individuals involved.
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Fry's Electronics Explained
|Fry's Electronics, Inc.|
Sunnyvale, California, U.S.
|Location City:||San Jose, California|
|Locations:||30 (at the time of closure)|
34 (at its peak in 2019)
|Area Served:||Arizona, California, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Nevada, Oregon, Texas, Washington|
|Key People:||John Fry, CEO|
Randy Fry, President
David Fry, CFO / CIO
Kathryn Kolder, Executive Vice President
|Fate:||General assignment, cited reasons were the COVID-19 pandemic and a difficult ever-changing retail environment|
|Products:||Consumer electronics retail|
|Revenue:||US$2.3 billion (2018)|
|Num Employees:||14,000 (2018)|
Fry's Electronics was an American big-box store chain headquartered in Silicon Valley. Fry's retailed software, consumer electronics, household appliances, cosmetics, tools, toys, accessories, magazines, technical books, and computer hardware. Fry's had in-store computer repair and custom computer building services.
Fry's began with one store in Sunnyvale, California, which expanded to 34 stores in nine states at its peak in 2019.
On February 24, 2021, Fry's announced the immediate and permanent closure of all of its stores due to the chain ceasing operations. A statement posted on their website cited "changes in the retail industry and the challenges posed by the COVID-19 pandemic".
In 1972, Charles Fry sold the Fry's Supermarkets chain based in California discover online banking bonus US$14 million to Dillons. He gave a portion of the proceeds, around $1 million, to each of his sons, John (who had worked as the IT manager for the supermarket chain), W. Randolph (who goes by the nickname "Randy"), and David, none of whom had much interest in grocery-store retailing. Instead, on May 17, 1985, they joined together with a fourth partner, John's former girlfriend Kathryn Kolder, to open the first Fry's Electronics store at a 20000ft2 site in Sunnyvale, California. Today, Fry's Food and Drug stores are owned and operated by Kroger, and are not affiliated with Fry's Electronics, although they have similar logos.
John's idea was to use the model of grocery retailing, with which the brothers were familiar, to sell computer and electronics supplies. The original Sunnyvale store (located near the intersection of Oakmead Parkway and Lakeside Drive) stocked numerous high-tech supplies such as integrated circuits, test and measurement equipment, and computer components, as well as software and various other types of consumer electronics. The store was one of the few retail outlets in the country that sold off-the-shelf microprocessors, such as the Intel 80286. The store also sold T-shirts, technical books, potato chips, and magazines, including Playboy. At first, roughly half the store was stocked with groceries, including fresh produce, but the groceries section quickly diminished to displays of soft drinks and snack foods. The store billed itself as "The One-Stop Shop for the Silicon Valley Professional", as one could buy both electronics and groceries (computer chips and potato chips) at the same time. Most components from most OEMs, were available for purchase, to assemble a desktop computer, à la carte.
As the business the skeleton key in hindi download, the original Sunnyvale store closed, and a newer, larger store was opened across Lawrence Expressway on Kern Avenue. The second Sunnyvale store was designed to look like the interior of a giant computer; the walls were adorned with simulated circuit components, and the floor resembled a giant printed circuit board. The exterior was painted to mimic a huge DIP integrated circuit, and the door handles imitated the ENTER and ESC keys on a computer keyboard; since 2007, this store has housed a Sports Basement store (which still bears some of the door-handle keys). Fry's moved again to its final Sunnyvale location on the corner of Arques and Santa Trinita Ave, the former site of a facility of the Link Flight Simulation Division of the Singer Corporation. Each of the Sunnyvale store locations was located within 1mile of the others.
In 1996, for reasons that the Fry brothers have never publicly disclosed, they transferred all their shares of Fry's Electronics to a limited liability company called RDL, LLC., controlled by a limited partnership called The Taw, L.P. Since then, they have controlled Fry's Electronics indirectly through those entities. Their existence became publicly known in January 2012 because Randy Fry's ex-wife, Laurie Hammer, had attempted to challenge a divorce settlement agreement under which she agreed to accept "units" of The Taw in settlement of her claims against Randy. On January 23, 2012, the California Court of Appeal for the Sixth District upheld the trial court's dismissal of her lawsuit in an unpublished opinion.
Because Fry's stores were enormous, stocking a wide range of each product category, they were popular with electronics and computer hobbyists and professionals. One of the few stores to challenge Fry's in all dimensions (production selection and store-wide themes) was Incredible Universe, a series of Tandy (Radio Shack) superstores, which were established in 1992 and bought out and converted into Fry's in 1996. Historically, Circuit City and CompUSA were major competitors in the computer space, but they collapsed during the late-2000s recession, leaving Microcenter and Newegg as Fry's main competitors.
In August 2014, Fry's Electronics operated 34 brick-and-mortar stores in 9 U.S. states: California (17), Texas (8), Arizona (2), Georgia (2), and one each in Illinois, Indiana, Nevada, Oregon, and Washington.
In August 2019, Fry's announced that it would close its oldest extant location in Palo Alto, by January 2020; the company said its lease at the location would not be renewed. On September 10, 2019, The Mercury News reported that customers were finding barren shelves in most stores, speculating that the chain was about to fold; Fry's responded by stating the company was changing to a consignment model with its vendors and was not planning to close any store other than Palo Alto. However, on January 7, 2020, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that the Fry's location in Duluth, Georgia was shuttered without advance notice during the 2019 holiday season. On February 25, 2020, Fry's announced that they would close their Anaheim location by March 2, 2020. On November 10, 2020, Fry's closed its Campbell location permanently without notice.
On the evening of February 23, 2021, several internet sources began claiming employees were given notice that all remaining stores would close to the public nationwide, with the Frys.com website scheduled to go offline at 12:00 am PST. The company deleted its Facebook page, and set the company Twitter account to protected, hiding all activity. Bay Area broadcaster KRON-TV confirmed the closure later that evening.
The Fry's website closed in the early hours of February 24, only showing a letter informing of its closure. According to the letter, the company will implement the shut down through an orderly wind-down process that it believes will be in the best interests of the company, its creditors, and other stakeholders to maximize the value of the company's assets for its creditors and other stakeholders. The company said those waiting for repairs will be notified how to claim their equipment.
Fry's officially entered General assignment on April 2, 2021 and began to liquidate all remaining assets, including owned real estate with Hilco Global.
In 1997, Forbes reported on a series of issues about Fry's customer service and unorthodox business practices. Among the allegations was that the company had an internal policy, identified as "the double H" or "hoops and hurdles", to delay or prevent customers from obtaining refunds.
In 1998, USA Today and Wired reported that many customers had become frustrated with poor customer service at Fry's stores.
Fry's advertising methods have also gone under heavy fire. In 2003, actors Denzel Washington, Bruce Willis, and future California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger sued Fry's for $10 million each for posting their images on television sets on their print ads and flyers without permission.
On Black Friday 2007, customers at the Renton, Washington, location complained that Fry's employees were offering to let people cut in front first minister of jamestown virginia a long line for a fee. After complaints in the media, Fry's management offered anyone who paid the fee their money back.
In 2008, the Federal Communications Commission found Fry's failed to place the required "analog-only tuner" consumer-alert label on analog televisions, fining them $384,000.
In 2008, Fry's vice president of merchandising and operations, Ausaf Umar Siddiqui, was charged by federal prosecutors in an illegal kickback scheme involving Fry's vendors, fueling sales with mail-in rebates. The alleged scheme was designed to defraud the company to cover Siddiqui's gambling expenses. Siddiqui used the funds to supplement his lavish gambling habits in Las Vegas, where he lost about $162 million.
In September 2012, Fry's Electronics agreed to pay $2.3 million and to implement preventive measures to settle a sexual harassment and retaliation lawsuit brought by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. The settlement was in relation to costco lundy san jose ca that an assistant store manager at the Renton store harassed a 20-year-old sales associate by frequently sending her sexually charged text messages and inviting her to his house to drink. After her direct supervisor reported the harassment to Fry's legal department, the company allegedly fired the female salesperson and fired her supervisor for standing up for her.
In 2019, rumors about the chain folding were rapidly spreading, mainly due to much of the shelves remaining empty for long periods of time and seeming to put more of an emphasis on makeup and fragrances than on electronics. Fry's Electronics responded by stating they were just switching to a consignment model, and not closing down entirely. From when Fry's put out this statement until early 2021, four additional stores closed (three of which were in California, and the one in Georgia), which further led much of the public to believe that Fry's Electronics would soon go out of business.
Online sales operation
Fry's Electronics was late in establishing an online sales presence. They began offering low-cost Internet access in 2000 through their original Web address "Frys.com". The company later bought e-commerce site Cyberian Outpost in November 2001, and started online sales with a different URL (Outpost.com), which confused customers who did not associate the online name with the brick-and-mortar store. For a time in the mid-2000s, the Web site identified itself as "Fry's Electronics Outpost.com", using dual branding in an attempt to create a connection in visitors' minds. In October 2006, a grand reopening of Frys.com introduced the online store with the same name as the retail outlets. The outpost.com URL now redirects to the Fry's online store.
Domain name acquisitions
In 1997, David Peter (or David Peter Burlini), who manufactured and sold French fryvending machines under the business name Frenchy Frys, owned the domain namefrys.com, and was also involved in another dispute over the domain newricochet.com with Ricochet Networks. David Burlini attended Santa Clara University around the same time that the Fry Brothers were attending. Fry's Electronics brought suit against him that year, alleging trademark infringement, and ultimately prevailed in a default judgment.
Since then, Fry's Electronics has aggressively tried to defend its trademark and domain names. In 2001, it threatened to sue Garret Maki for scanning and posting the company's print ads on the Web using the domain frysad.com. In 2007, Fry's Electronics lost a domain dispute against Prophet Partners Inc., an online advertising company with thousands of generic and descriptive domain names. The arbitrator dismissed the complaint, which requested transfer of the Frys.us domain, ruling that Fry's Electronics did not have any more right to use the "Fry's" mark than other entities with a similar surname or commercial use of the word.
Various Fry's locations were decorated in elaborate themes. For example, the Burbank store, which opened in 1995, carried a theme of 1950s and 1970s science-fiction movies, and featured huge statues of popular characters such as the robot Gort from The Day the Earth Stood Still and Darth Vader from the Star Wars movie series. In addition, giant ants (from the movie Them!) hung from the ceiling, and the bodies of 1957 Chevys and Buicks served as dining tables in the cafe. A flying saucer protruded above the entrance.
Since Fry's acquired six stores from the Incredible Universe chain of stores, the company had reduced the elaborateness of its themes. With the opening of the store in Fishers, Indiana, Fry's made a "race track" theme with various hanging displays, including "stop" and "go" signs, as well as many photos of what life looked like in late 1800s and early 1900s in Indianapolis.
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Posted on Feb 24th, 12:52 PM,User Since 119 months ago, User Post Count: 22963
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Mercury News: Fry’s Electronics says it is going out of business permanently
“After nearly 36 years in business as the one-stop-shop and online resource for high-tech professionals across nine states and 31 stores, Fry’s Electronics has made the difficult decision to shut down its operations and close its business permanently,” the retailer stated on its website.
A San Jose retail icon goes under. Growing up in San Jose I remember how the Friday Mercury News would have a full color, multi page Fry's ad supplement. When it was still a news station, KLIV often broadcast Fry's commercials with the excited announcer talking about the latest deals over an electronic music background and closing with the slogan "Your best buys are ALWAYS.(laser beam sound FX) at Fry's, guaranteed."
The Fry family that founded the electronics store also founded the San Jose SaberCats arena football team in 1995; the team suddenly shut down after a 17-1 season in 2015.
Posted on Feb 24th, 1:06 PM,User Since 181 months ago, User Post Count: 2202
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Wow, that's the end of a retailing legend. I hated the way Fry's worked, but still went there because of the selection and the prices. Those full page color ads and the radio commercials that you referenced were indeed legendary too.
The original Fry's business was a chain of grocery stores, centered in the South Bay but which eventually expanded to Phoenix. The founder sold off the business, but Fry's grocery stores can still be found in Phoenix. The sons used the proceeds from the sale to launch Fry's Electronics.
Posted on Feb 24th, 1:28 PM,User Since 123 months ago, User Post Count: 5783
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Wow, I loved those stores when I lived up in the bay area. You could find anything technical in their stores, I wonder if Covid shutdown or Amazon killed the business or both?
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No, I think that mismanagement and having clerks that had no clue about what they were selling were the main reasons they closed. I stopped going to Fry's because every time I went in there they either didn't have the part or had no clue as to what I wanted or they were out of and didn't know when they'd get new stock. Their prices were just OK but found I could do better elsewhere. I'm sorry to see the entire chain shut down because it was at one time a large business. I bought everything from stereo parts, speakers, printers, computers and laptops there over the years. I used to go to the one on Hamilton and then when I was san jose mercury news frys out on North First Street, I'd go to the one in that area usually during my lunch hour.
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Well, maybe they should not of strong armed all of the vendors! Maybe they should not of taken all the kick back money, from said vendors, for the prime shelf spots in all their stores and then go blow all that money, and then some, on gambling, hookers and cocaine in Vegas!!!
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Fry's also had some stellar TV commercials. I remember seeing them with their Charlie Chip mascot on Channel 11 (when it was a San Jose centered station not the SF Bay Area station it is now) like this one:
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The 2023 Men's Golf NCAA Regional will be held at a golf course called "The Institute LLC". It's the most exclusive golf course in the Bay Area, if not the entire country, owned by John Fry. I wonder what's gonna happen to the course. Either turn it into housing or make the golf course more accessible.
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Why would anything change. The business is closing, but John Fry is not going bankrupt.
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Electronics stores including Best Buy are in trouble. Due to streaming, nobody buys high margin high volume items such as Software DVD’s and CD’s. Technology has made TV’s and laptops cheap, with small margins, high carrying costs, and as technology slows demand to buy a new computer every year has slowed for most. Upgrading your car stereo is also now a thing of the past as cars become equipped with integrated computers.
There is a reason why Best Buy now dedicates a huge portion of their store towards selling you cell phone plans and ATT uverse. It is a dying part of the retail landscape.
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1spartan02 said. (original post)Electronics stores including Best Buy are in trouble. Due to streaming, nobody buys high margin high volume items such as Software DVD’s and CD’s.
As much as I enjoy Spotify, YouTube, and other streaming services, I still value the reliability of DVDs, Blu Rays, and CDs. At least they don't malfunction when the home Internet isn't working or the streaming provider decides no longer to host the song, TV show, or movie. Plus, a san jose mercury news frys of older TV shows that had the original music retained on DVD/Blu Ray have their music altered when streaming on Netflix due to licensing issues (the licensing deals during production covered only broadcast/DVD, not streaming).
Posted on Feb 25th, 11:25 AM,User Since 83 months ago, User Post Count: 2355
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Andrew I don’t disagree, but I think you are more passionate about those issues than the general population. I think most skip the dvd section in favor of Netflix.
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NB1978 - I felt the same way about Fry's. Diffident, disinterested staff treating you like you were a moron and that you were doing them a favor by shopping there. I hated that place and I'm glad it's apply for capital one personal loan online. Fry's had no idea what customer service was about. In it's day, Quement Electronics was far superior!
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Quement Electronics on Bascom Avenue! You must be an old-timer to remember that.
OK, totally off topic, but does anyone else remember when the nearby Sherman Oaks Bowl blew up? Hint: it was in 1961,
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I also remember Schad Electronics which was across the street from Quement. And going further back, I used to haunt Alltronics (used radio gear) out near Can i deposit cash at wells fargo atm Gatos and lest we not forget Carroll Reimers United Radio & TV on the corner of W. San Carlos & Meridian (adjacent to Emery's Honda). I always liked that place best, it smelled like old vacuum tubes and electronic parts.
The owner had once been chief engineer for radio station KQW San Jose 1010 AM. KQW was the world's first radio station going on the air in 1909 from the First Baptist Church in downtown San Jose. Later, it was sold to the Pacific Agricultural Foundation and became an all-farm news station serving the farmers and ranchers of Santa Clara County. This was from the 1920's thru the late 1940's. The transmitter was moved out of downtown and two antennas were erected out in Alviso. In 1947, PAF sold KQW to CBS Inc. and the studios were moved to the Palace Hotel in San Francisco. Four new antennas were erected in Novato and the station started broadcasting from there in 1951 or 1952 - the station moved frequencies down the dial to 740 AM and became KCBS as we know it today.
The 1010 frequency sat unused for a number of years until Grant Wrathall received FCC permission to build on that frequency in SF. The station was a daytime only operation for many years and was known as KSAY and programmed country and western music. There was quite a fight between Wrathall and the then owners of KSJO 1590. KSJO had applied for the 1010 frequency wanting to move off of the graveyard frequency of 1590.
Riley Gibson, owner of KSJO, had petitioned the FCC that 1010 AM was a frequency first assigned to San Jose and belonged in San Jose, not San Francisco. Additionally because of radio treaties with Canada, 1010 located in SF was too far north to operate 24/7 and not cause objectionable interference via nighttime skywave to the dominant Canadian station on that frequency. Gibson petitioned that for full use of the spectrum, the frequency should remain allocated to San Jose where it could operate 24/7 as did the old KQW.
The FCC has always been a political beast and Wrathall had more political juice inside the portals than did a small-time radio owner from San Jose, so he got the 1010 for SF and San Jose got the shaft.
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This is a fun OT off season discussion for a few of us old guys. I’d forgotten about United Radio & TV. My dad would take me in there to use their bulb tester and repair our old TV. They had a great selection of bulbs.
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Really enjoyed the radio talk as an old guy too.
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Wow -- love the scripture verse fear not for i am with you. I'm no tech guy, but I remember buying a Commodore 64 at Federated on Blossom Hill Rd.
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From Fred Rated?